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The strongest words to date on the fracas kicked up by Teo Chee Hean et al came from Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono (SBY). Speaking through his spokesman on foreign affairs, the message was stark and devoid of rhetoric: Singapore risks overreacting on warship issue.
Indonesia's Defence Ministry confirmed on Sunday the chain of dominoes started tumbling when Second Defence Minister Chan Chun Sing cancelled a scheduled meeting with their Deputy Defence Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin. Slighted, Sjafrie decided to give the air show a miss.
In a demonstration of unity, Indonesian Armed Forces (TNI) commander General Moeldoko, Army Chief Budiman and Air Force Chief Ida Bagus Putu Dunia also decided not to attend, although they were not uninvited. "If my men cannot go, and the commander of the TNI goes, it's not good. So no TNI officer will attend the Singapore Airshow," General Moeldoko made clear his stand in the Indonesian parliament. The Indonesian Air Force's Jupiter Aerobatic team will still take to the skies, "But we are ready to withdraw if we are not given time to do so."
General Moeldoko has also cancelled a lecture he was supposed to deliver at a Singapore university. Putting his military foot down firmly, Moeldoko said their navy would not rename the ship, "It's up to them to raise the issue but when it comes to sovereignty, there's no way."
Chan Chun Sing had spent two years in Jakarta as Singapore's Army Attache, but if he made any friends at all, none of them raised their hands in support ("keechiu"). Not too long ago he plagiarised Winston Churchill's speech to wage war on our citizenry. Now he takes cowardly cover in a mountain of weasel words, "I suggest we interact boldly, dialogue openly, network assiduously and train together professionally." Right, like the best way to open a dialogue is to cancel a scheduled meeting.
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I would like to re-interate...
ReplyDeleteWars are easy to start...Farking HARD TO STOP Mr. Kee Chiu.
zzz
Wars do not determine who is right; wars determine who is left.
DeleteKee chiu could have been the nexus for a continuing dialogue with the Indonesians.
ReplyDeleteInstead, he chose to become part of the problem.
Obviously this LKY wannabe does not have the statesman-like quality to move among world leaders.
I really don't want to go to war because of this idiot PAP General.
What war ? Majority of sporeans will gladly hand over the whole bunch of PAP idiots along with the ill gotten billions to the Indons.
DeleteOoooh!...
ReplyDeleteour leaders are extremely skillfull with a docile populace... I want to witness their abilities when it comes to a not so docile people.
The acid test:
Task them to get the ships renamed... better still get them renamed as Singa 1 & Singa 2 as a show of cooperation and friendly ties.
Now, that is worth half a miilion bucks no?
Trouble is.... they will be assigning the task to someone else!
DeleteNot only that... they will assign blame to you once it fails!
The paper general is only good at fight at every corner, every street corner of sinkapore. Do you think the Indonesians give a damn to what he said?.
ReplyDeleteNot surprised if the Indonesians regard ChanCS as a boyscout pretending to be a general.
DeleteGive the boyscout a Tiger for him to be a Man....
DeleteThe naming of the ship is considered as "domestic affairs", and would you want others to get involved in ours such as foreign politicians meeting our opposition members? Singapore always likes to apply double standard wherever possible.
ReplyDeleteYes, it is insensitive for the other party to do so, but what is the big deal? Singapore has remained silence after we have seen what the Japanese PM did to the War Crimes.
So keep your big mouth shut, Singapore!
We cannot complain about the Japanese PM annual visit to Yasukuni as it will expose the hypocrisy of one of our PMs collaborating with Japanese occupiers in WWII.
DeleteAll this wayang to gain some political points after all the fuck-ups
ReplyDeletePAP finally get the taste of being insulted by foreigners. Will they move on like what they expected of Singaporeans towards Anton Casey? The behaviour of Kee Chiu speaks volume and with other ministers came into to fore to criticise indonesia, we may want to borrow LHL's words he used on social media, the PAP is no different from "a pack of hound". What if old fart kick the bucked and someday our ship were to name after him. If malaysian protest, what will PAP say? Food for thought for PAP.
ReplyDeleteMaybe a ban on the sale of natural gas would stop all this nonsense.
ReplyDeleteIndonesia already stopped all piped natural gas exports.
DeleteSome time ago, their parliament passed a law that outlaws any export of piped natural gas. Sometime last week, it was reported that all piped natural gas exports had stopped. (Including to Singapore)
The indons have replaced the export of natural gas with export of smoke and they are not charging for it.
DeletePersonally, I think 'uninviting' the Indonesians is a wrong move.
ReplyDeleteThe last when such a diplomatic spat occurs is for both parties to be stubborn leading to possible head-on collision.
An opportunity for the Singapore and Indonesians to settle this issue in a calm and mature manner, in a dialogue , is lost.
Atagonism begets atangonism and playing the opposite doesn't mean display weakness or submissiveness but smart diplomacy
So where is the PM, now that the Indonesian President has issued his warning? Just like the Little India riot, unseen and unheard until everything is over. Leadership?
ReplyDeleteHe was also not the one doing the uninvitation of Dr. Tan Cheng Bock. He left it to his underling, his Minister w/o Portfolio in the PMO and vice-Chair of PA.
DeleteThe advantage of being PM is that he convey only "good tidings" like what he did on Sunday at the Istana, stealing the thunder from his Finance Minister.
LOL
He will say sorry, no 20/20 foresight. Let move on.
DeleteSorry all, I disagree.
ReplyDeleteAntagonising the indons will create a great opportunity to convince the sheeple and all who objected to the sinful $4b acquisition of the white elephant F35 and related toys.
Rule No1: never let a good crisis go to waste.
Rule No 2: If there is no crisis, create one, and profit from it.
Why today no PAP trolls around, or even any smart admin oppicer surfing the net to score points?
Those with black accounts please say thank you to the dumb sheeple!
QED.
You are right. The PAP is just using Indonesia as a bogeyman to justify its acquisition of the over-price F35 jets. Their loud silence when Abe visit the yakusa shrine says it all. Hypocrite.
DeleteWe can't do sheet to Indonesia! We need them more than they need us. But, what goes around, comes around. So, when the next tsunami, earthquake, volcano, flood etc happen....
ReplyDeleteBloomberg reports that the Sjamsoeddin meeting was canceled through a mobile-text message from Singapore. How rude can the keechiu general get!
ReplyDeleteAlso Indonesia’s top army officials "skipped" the Singapore Airshow, they were not uninvited - as in the case of Tan Cheng Bock.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-02-10/indonesia-officials-skip-singapore-airshow-as-tensions-increase
Oh yes, I think plenty the papigs can do to the Indons, like confiscate their money laundered here, especially Prabowo and Megawati's, or maybe stop giving them any more old F16A/Bs, except that would mean declaration of hostilities. Now we just need Habibie to come with his army of urine-loaded farmers to pee on the MFA top brass' faces, start with sham. Oh wait, the haze is back, start with Vbala (wtf has he been doing except hiding behind NEA to throw stones at aljunied? When is he going to do something about the burning?
ReplyDeleteIf we view those heroes as terrorists, then what was LKY doing when he laid flowers for them ? Is it not kind of ironic now to be unhappy when our very own PM even went to pay respect to them ?
ReplyDeleteSomemore to univite a guest who is much respected must be the greatest humiliation act to be imposed on any guest what more one from their own Pioneer Generation leaders.
What this tells me is that our current PAP leaders truly lack that basic Confucian teaching about respect for one's elders that they often like to brag about. So is it any wonder that likewise respect for LKY is also going down the drain despite what they falsely report in the controlled media ?
When LKY went to Indonesia, they were heroes. But when LKY returned back to Singapore, they became terrorists again. Diplomacy PAP style. Which begs the question: Who is the chameleon, LKY or the 2 Indonesian marines?
DeleteI don't like keechiu either. But how should the Sing Govt respond to the naming? Silence?
ReplyDeleteJust let the spokesperson in the foreign affairs said we are displeasure with it. That's all. What do you think the little red dot or the highest paid PM and ministers can do? What do you think? Agreed, keechiu.
DeleteYes. Silence.
DeleteWe are a country of 6 million.
50% of our citizens got their pink i/c over the last 10 years.
And followers of LKY ideology want to do battle with a country of 200 million people?
Are you nuts?
Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. He had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilizing terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists.
DeleteSouth African President P.W. Botha had, on a number of occasions, offered Nelson Mandela freedom from prison, if he would only renounce terrorist violence. This Mandela refused to do.
Would you consider Mandela a Hero or a Marxist Terrorist? Remember, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
There are two other frigates to be commissioned in June.
DeleteKRI 357 is named after Bung Tomo, a resistance fighter who attacked British and Dutch forces;
KRI 358 is named after John Lie, who smuggled in arms from Malaysia to kill Dutch soldiers.
Do you hear the British and the Dutch complaining?
MSM did not report it... so I donch know
DeleteIf Mandela was a sinkie, LKY will take all his money by suing for defamation and then have him executed after a trial for planting bombs. If Mandela did not plant bombs, then he would be locked up without trial like Chia Thye Poh.
DeleteWhen Malaysia and Indonesia protested that Singapore spyed on it's neighbour, our Foreign Minister said: “Nevertheless, there’s such a thing as domestic politics in all three countries.”
ReplyDeleteCiting domestic politics, we can mug others with impunity, and are riled when being mugged by them? Eat your words, Shan-mug-em.
Lala land is just copying big brother Disneyland to find an external enemy to divert attention from its epic failures at home. Cannot solve SMRT, haze, need a reason to increase taxes, property prices starting to look wobbly (heh he, MAS just did U-turn on property cooling measures, wtf!!)need to find excuse to spend more on defence, install more CCTVs, pass more laws to restrict freedom of expression? Just nice a self-made bogeyman turned up so just blow it up! Most lala-landers read the propaganda sheets, so it works, every time.
ReplyDeleteSingaporeans will agree that TWO OLD MEN SHOULD OR SHOULD HAVE GO TO PAY HOMAGE THEIR FORMER EMPLOYERS AT THE YASUKUNI SHRINE.
ReplyDeletepatriot
TO PAY THEIR HOMAGE TO THEIR FORMER EMPLOYER.
DeleteMy apology.
patriot
"I suggest we interact boldly, dialogue openly, network assiduously and train together professionally."
ReplyDeleteYes. Very typical of PAP to wayang openness which at the end of the day must still go the PAP way just like the natcon.
"We open to all dialogue but at the end of the day, we can only accept the PAP way, no other way , whatever, regardless. We decide the outcome, not you. "
Don't you like the way the PAPigs "... interact boldly, dialogue openly, network assiduously and train together professionally." with Tan Cheng Bock?
Deletethey sure have no problems talking when it comes to $$$, so this airshow un-invite is a wayang show:
ReplyDeleteGood progress has been made between Singapore and Indonesia, said the Ministry of Trade and Industry (MTI) on Feb 11.
This was highlighted at the 4th Singapore-Indonesia Six Bilateral Economic Working Groups Ministerial Meeting, which encourages bilateral economic cooperation between the two countries.
The meeting was co-chaired by Trade and Industry Minister Lim Hng Kiang and Mr Hatta Rajasa, Indonesia's Coordinating Minister for Economic Affairs.
Damn!
ReplyDeleteNow Indons are also playing it down.
No chance to see my million dollar ministers perform... what a lucky bunch these millionaires are.
Yep. Those million dollars ministers were lucky that the Indons. said "let move forward". If not, don't know how they are going to wrap up on this episode.
DeleteYou spoke too soon.
DeleteAccording to Business Times today, the flak over Indonesia's naming of a ship after the Indonesian marines who bombed Singapore's MacDonald House in 1965 has spilt over to the energy front. An earlier-scheduled Indonesian government meeting with potential investors in Singapore today for its first greenfield refinery development in 30 years has now been cancelled.
Oh! goodie!
DeleteOnce the GDP is affected, they will kowtow.
Ha! Ha!.. so easy to twist the arm of a greedy boy whose hands are stuck in the cookie jar!
And the Indons know how to twist... bloodless style.
I only listen to the PM.
ReplyDeleteHe did the cable car rescue.
You know a person by his/her works and a few by their words....
SBY, so few words and it's made you ponders.
CCS - don't know him. don't want to know him
Some chap that tells about a little something kingdom...
I like to put my name but I am afraid for my children future.
You mean the Singapore Cable Car accident which occurred at about 6 pm on 29 January 1983, and took 6 hours before a Royal Australian Navy Lieutenant Geoff Ledger, who was on loan to RSAF to help train helicopter pilots, was sent to rescue terrified passengers from two cabins hanging only by their towline? Opinions vary, but some say it was a botched up rescue operation. But don't repeat the story, for fear of your children being fixed.
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