Thursday, February 27, 2014

Define Run Away

When it comes to communication with Singaporeans, Singlish is often blamed for a lot of misunderstanding. It's not the same problem other countries face. For instance, George Bernard Shaw is attributed to have said, "England and America are two countries divided by a common language." Here, even Singaporeans sometimes fail to understand what other Singaporeans are saying.

When bus drivers stop work, it's an industrial action, not a strike. When roads are immersed under water, it's due to ponding, not a flood. When a track circuit failure occurred on the south bound line between Yew Tee and Kranji MRT stations on Monday, SMRT insisted the incident did not amount to a service disruption as the trains did not stop, "although trains ran at a slower speed." So when SMRT CEO Desmond Kuek says he will continue to make "improvements" to the system, you have to wonder whether he's referring to the language manipulation or efficient train operations.

Committee of Inquiry (COI) Chairman G Pannir Selvam must have wished he had a dictionary in hand when he had to ask pointedly whether the police at Little India "were cowardly or displayed signs of cowardice". Mr Selvam was referring to the impression conveyed by Youtube videos that the policemen were frightened and ran away from the scene - in full panic mode, abandoning expensive cars in the middle of the road. State Counsel Joshua Lim was more blunt with the choice of words for Assistant Superintendent of Police (ASP) Edwin Yong: "Were you cowardly getting into the ambulance?"

Yong's officer, Constable Sergeant Abdul Aziz, had a easier time explaining the Singapore Police Force (SPF) definition of "running away".

Another officer explained "I was not taught how to deal with riots as our training programmes dealt more with anti-terrorism measures". That makes rioters more terrifying than terrorists like, say, Mas Selamat Kastari.

Maybe the cops who lost their innocence at Little India deserve a slice of the Pioneer Generation Package, since everything they did there seems to be a pioneering effort. As in never. done. before. But not everyone wants to be a pioneer. Pioneers, as you see in Western movies, tend to be shot by Indians.

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  1. If the highest paid PM and his cabinet, the paper generals, and all those MP who vote for 6.9m population were the first to reach Little India, will they cowardly run away or will they still scratch their heads??








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  2. Cowardice in the face of the enemy is, in the armed forces. punishable with death. 316 British soldiers were executed in First World War for running away from the enemy.(They received posthumous pardons in 2006.) Indeed General Allen was of the view that those standing fast had a duty to shoot the cowards as they ran. This whole episode should give us food for thought. The repeated claims that our armed forces could fight a successful war could end up in the same fiasco, only with fatal results for the country. We could be victims of our own propaganda. A conscript army of mainly bespectacled only (or one of two sons) is suspect. To make matters worse they are commanded by paper generals. Do these people have what it takes to kill another human being?

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    1. they can beat dogs up and they can punish people who witnessed & report the beatings.... they excellent at assigning blame. A1++ ratings.

      Nah... cannot kill human beings... human beings are needed to be slaves and a source of tax and subjugation... otherwise nobody to blame or lord over...
      beating dogs only is boring.

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  3. Grilling the shrimps for not fighting with the crabs.
    Ignore questions of why the crabs are here and why they are angry.

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  4. This reminded me of the Pinay SWAT team in the after-episode of the hijacking of tourist bus that resulted in several tragic hongkongers' death, fully displayed on 24/7 CNN network.

    SWAT is mockingly defined as "Sorry, We Aren't Trained"

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    1. If memory serves me right - these enforcers were lauded as heroes of the home team and rewarded with a meal (complete with disposable dining wares) with Mr and Mrs Dear Leader.

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    2. I was thinking the same thing myself, including how KBW aka Talk Rubbish defended the purchase of the Brompton bikes, not forgetting Ms Vivian aka Vulva Blabber pointed to the ceiling with his doctored report on AHPETC. I've had enough of Ali Baba and his 77.

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  5. We buy very expensive subs, fighter planes, tanks just to show.
    The order to push that button will not come... even if it did come, the firer has lots of uncertainty... just like trying to decide PAP or WP.... eventually, its PAP... means no push the button lah.

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  6. I hope the army, navy, and air force will do better in a real war and not run away from the unexpected!

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    1. Who are the enemies, pointing the guns at .......?

      No one expect it right?

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  7. Sorry....

    I will fight for singapore and its peoples...but i will NEVER FIGHT for the PAP.

    Those who want can go die for the PAP gov't then.

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  8. No, they did not run away nor were they taking cover in the ambulance.
    They were trying to come to a decision whether to run away or to continue trying to come to a decision while waiting for reinforcements. When the ambulance door was opened, they had to run, so as not to waste time to regroup at another location to watch the rioters burn the ambulance.

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    1. Q: What steps do you take in such a situation.
      A: Very big ones sir - in the opposite direction.

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  9. If we compare this cowardly episode with that of sending a whole cordon of police to deal with CSJ or his sister for those silent protests, we now know what good they are for.

    When the panel chairman said he wants to award a medal to one of the police officers for his bravery, I was just wondering whether he really meant it and was it meant to be sarcastic?

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    1. I have the same feeling too. From his questions, you can gauge that he is not too impressed with the dismal performance of the police.

      I like this guy. He is the right man for the job. Without him around, probably everyone including the policemen involved would have fallen asleep.

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    2. The short answer is no one in the whole machinery is willing to risk making a personal judgement call without directives.

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    3. It was meant to be a sarcasm because when COI panel chairman was asked if he is really going to recommend the ASP Yong for a meal, he replied no, not for this riot incidence.

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  10. If any of you are paid 1k or 2k to work as aux police, would you risk your finger or limp to catch those rioters, what more if you happens to be a foreigner?

    Look they are looking at the bottom line when they engage foreigners to be aux police, this is what you get. Pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

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  11. Why you blame the policemen for running away?
    What about NSF doing their NS in a research laboratory?

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  12. Why not Teo Chee Hean show a good example?
    Stand in front of the rioters and hold the line.
    Then all the other policemen can follow his example,

    Teo Chee Hean dies in the line of duty.
    His family probably gets a very big insurance payout.
    So worth it for him to die in the line of duty.

    The rest of us don't have such a good insurance plan.
    Must still live for another 30 years to pay off the HDB mortgage.

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    1. that's a good question. When was TCH informed and what role did he play in this, if any? what do you think.

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    2. Careful now, burning of effigies strictly not allowed. Police will catch you.

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  13. Will the SAF fare better than the SPF?
    Bearing in mind that their commandants are themselves PAPER GENERALS.

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  14. The sergeant sure knows how to lie...not exactly running away...In the midst of being beaten by hundreds of rioters, they regrouped to discuss and debate on what to do next...hmmmm...should they stay and show these rioters who is boss...or should they go somewhere, very safe, and regroup and discuss further what action to take?

    The group discussion lasted for probably 10 to 15 mins before they decided, together, to regroup somewhere, very safe, for further discussion .

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    1. Hey they have to re-group somewhere. Probably someplace safe for discussions over ckopi? The trucks can burn. They're not paying for them personally anyway. No need COE too.

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    2. Police can't even protect police cars, how will they be able to protect people? It is wishful thinking for police personnel to protect citizens when their own lives is under threat.

      They will be the first to run.

      You wonder which is more amusing or maybe worrisome. The police running away or the politicians who stood by them and hail them as heroes?

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  15. Anything good, the honour goes to the generals. Anything bad, the front line ones face the music. This is reality.

    The sense of proportion is also not right. A bonus of 8 months, they declare for themselves. The foot soldiers are paid a pittace to die for the country. This is another reality.

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  16. All this grilling of foot soldiers makes for high drama and nice front page news, the sheeple will all be happy that it's nothing to worry, small problem of lack of training just give the foot soldiers a slap on their wrists, send them for more of toothpick king's courses, give them a salary upgrade to compensate them for the trauma and all will be well. But will the buck stop there? Most probably.

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  17. The root of the problem is that the police force is grossly under-manned. Resident population has exploded in the past 2 decades, but the number of policemen had not increase commensurately. Worse still, a lot of policing work has been out-sourced to poorly-trained Cisco/Certis.

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    1. What undermanned? SPFsaid crime ratess have come down what...so if rates are down...so no need to justify for man power lah...so if rates are down...it means they are doing a good job lah..so if rates are down..it means prisoners should also closed down or significantly reduced lah...so where is the need for manpower? But did the prisons shut down? Or did the prisoners per 100,000 population gone up? Did Home Defence spending go down? Did installations go up ? Does Home Defence know what they are talking about? OR just talking through their ass? Can they make up their mind which part they want to lie about?

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  18. The Home Affairs Department should be ask for matters regarding measures for riot prevention and control.
    The Individual Officer on duty and at the Scene has no authority to act indepedently.
    I am sure all low ranking officers have to refer to and ask for permission to execute order unless life is in imminent danger.
    It shall be commonsense to say that most police officers are trained for routine duty and not in cases of mass participation. Otherwise there will not be specialist units such as SOC, Riot Squad, CID and Vice Squad etc. It is similar to all other profession and vocation. A driver does not mean one can handle all classes of vehicles and or different types of vehicles such as cranes or mechanical sweeper etc.

    patriot

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    1. The new police car the SPF is buying will have 1 forward gear and 5 reverse gears.
      The forward gear is in case the rioters attack from behind.

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  19. Moral of the story - when overcome by number or size...run?

    When your lives are under threaten...Singaporeans run away or do a tactical retreat?

    Ok, we get the hint what singaporeans will do when there is a war.

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    1. Yah... debate & wayang in parliament... but family board the plane already... in fact the kids & grandkids are all overseas since birth. YOU! yes, YOU!.. stay and guard the MRT ok?

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  20. The problem stems from the loonatic immigration policy of ah Loong. Overcrowding eventually leads to social tension and dysfunction. Recall the derelict ship where the rats turned on each other and became cannibals. And this is with a 5.4 million population. With the current dry spell we may run into water shortages. I cannot imagine how it will be like with 6.9 million.

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  21. think hard hard. police protect property, not citizens. who is property owner? really want them well armed & trained? who do you think they think they work for? another excuse towards fascist tendency. remember, remember,who police works for. you want us to make the list? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_historical_secret_police_organizations

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  22. look to Ukraine, Syria, Palestine and closer, Thailand now. who did what to who? want kind of force used? we have the eyes/ears that is the internet. learn to read the tea-leaves. conflicts have always been about resources, stretching back to recorded history. who's taking what from who now? think hard hard.

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  23. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_oath says alot

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  24. Definitely not the Singapore version of Custer's Last Stand.

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    1. More like chunky custard's last stand.

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  25. It’s not the size of the dog in the fight
    But the fight in the dog

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